VIDEO: Water & Waste Water Infrastructure 101 Educational Panel 3/24/15

By Rebecca Martin

"Infrastructure must be maintained. People come to rely on that service.  The general population doesn't stop to think "If I didn't have water, how would my life be affected? How valuable is that infrastructure to my quality of life that I have?  How much am I paying for it vs. how important is it to my life?"
- Fred Testa, EFC

"Many municipalities  say "I haven't raised water rates. Re-elect me!"  Not good. You need to continually keep pace with the cost of running your system. One of the ways you do that is by increasing your rates to recognize that things cost more as you move forward. You also recognize that things may not break next year, but may in five years - and you keep projecting future costs."
- Candace Balmer, RCAP

Last evening, KingstonCitizens.org hosted a "Water & Waste Water Infrastructure 101" educational panel with guests Water Resource Specialist Candace Balmer of RCAP Solutions and Environmental Project Manager Fred Testa from NYS Environmental Facilities Corporation.

Close to 50 people were in attendance that included elected and appointed officials, representatives from many of our environmental organizations and citizens alike.

Thanks to our sponsors for this event that include the Woodstock Land Conservancy, Riverkeeper and Catskill Mountainkeeper and to Kingston News for providing a live stream of the event and the following video.

MATERIALS:

1.  NYS Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (NYS EFC)
City of Kingston applications/awards to date

2. Powerpoint: NYS Environmental Facilities Corporation

3. Powerpoint: Candace Balmer, RCAP (Coming soon)

 

 

PART One:

oo:oo - 2:42:  KingstonCitizens.org Welcomes the Audience and Guests.

2:43 - 5:24:  MODERATOR Jennifer Schwartz Berky, Introduction

5:26 - 25:00:  PRESENTATION: Candace Balmer, RCAP Solutions

25:14 - 27:48:  QUESTION: Dan Shapley, Riverkeeper
"Is there a reuse solution for the wastewater sludge?"

27:50 - 59:30:  PRESENTATION: Fred Testa, NYS Environmental Facilities Corporation     FOLLOW ALONG with PowerPoint

 

PART Two:

0:00 - 1:56:   QUESTION, Dan Shapley 
"If there is a water quality problem the community is aware of, but isn't documented on the list it's not helping getting funding for that project?"

"If the project is going to improve water quality (class b vs. class c) does that effect the score of the project?"

3:00 - 4:04:    MODERATOR

MHI (Median Household Income) is $44,000 in Kingston, making us likely to be eligible for funding.  

"How is the water supply changing based on growth and change in the landscape?  The way we manage, monitor, maintain?"

4:06 - 5:58:  Fred Testa, EFC

"State Department of Health has the role of regulating the quality of water."

6:00 - 6:24:  MODERATOR

"Would you say that there is an increasing burden on small communities in the way of managing infrastructure?"

6:26:    Candace Balmer, RCAP 

"Demographic changes and the financial impact from shrinking communities."

7:02 - 7:16:  MODERATOR

"H0w is the role of the government changed to met that gap? Is it doing so?

7:17:  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"Water is free, but the pipes that are bringing it to you are not. It costs more than what they want to deal with."

8:28 - 12:20:   MODERATOR

"In the Kingston system, rates might have to go up to provide for infrastructure needs. In the present, we are struggling to meet that demand. Can we talk for a moment about different rate structures, and what you're seeing as best practice? Kingston has a descending rate structure today."

9:25:  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"We advocate a level rate structure and per gallon charge so that there isn't any base usage. It's called FULL COST PRICING."

10:16MODERATOR

"How does that play out in the community?"

10:18:  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"You have fixed costs. If people decide to use less to save money, the department still has to meet those costs."

11:24:  Fred Testa, EFC

"Some small communities have a simple, flat rate. In the old days, things were more simple and it's not as simple today.  In waste water, sometimes the expense on the property owner is based in part on property values."

12:21 - 13:38:  MODERATOR 

"You brought asset management which the City of Kingston is undergoing for its waste water infrastructure. Can you tell us more about it and how you might be involved?  By the way, it's the most expensive piece of infrastructure for the COK to run. It was found in our climate action plan that the municipality is responsible for that, and the cost of repairs would be 3 x more than we thought given it's in the flood plain. Instead of it being $2 million dollars it's more like $6 million in longterm costs."

13:40 - 18:56:  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"People don't always understand where their dollars are going, (chemicals, transmission, admin, debt repayment, etc.). It's about getting the most value for your equipment. It costs more to fix something once it's broken than when it was planned for so to be replaced in a timely manner.  Assets are pipes, buildings, tanks, equipment, security, tools, office/lab. These are things that you have invested in and you recognize that they have a life span and when they break, you want to make sure that you have access to the things that you need to replace them efficiently and think of about financing for these replacements beforehand.  The first thing you do is an inventory. You want to identify what your assets are and prioritize your critical assets. Those that you'll be really in trouble if you don't have a back-up or money in the kitty for replacement.  Many communities don't have maps. It's very important to know what and where these assets are. What's the expected use for life of an asset and how much does it cost? You've got to be saving money and setting it aside in dedicated accounts."

18:29 - 18:56:  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"Many municipalities  say "I haven't raised water rates. Re-elect me!"  Not good. You need to continually keep pace with the cost of running your system. One of the ways you do that is by increasing your rates to recognize that things cost more as you move forward. You also recognize that things may not break next year, but may in five years - and you keep projecting future costs."

19:11 - 19:52:  Candace Balmer, RCAP 

"Long term vs. short plan terming - you want to have the name of what you are replacing in that account so that extra money in water budgets are not transferred. You need dedicated reserve accounts."

19:57 - 22:58:   MODERATOR 

"The EFC brought a list of what Kingston has borrowed from the revolving funds since 1994/1998.  How does EFC Work with a city like Kingston on Asset Management?

20:56 - 22:58:   Fred Testa, ECF

"We would mostly be urging them to do that. Asset Management plans are a growing phenomenon.  It wasn't done in the past. There is a growing interest to do this and the DEC is starting to work on a plan making it required. What will the rates be? How will they need to be raised in order to avoid crisis? Asset Management will take communities a long way to know what will be happening. They are a live plan. They do no good to put them up on the shelf and not revisited and updated consistently."

22:59 - 24:06   MODERATOR

"The State is trying to incorporate best practices for rating and in awarding funding.  Communities should invest where they already exist vs. sprawling. Invest in existing communities instead of newer projects."

24:12 - 25:17:  QUESTION:  Rachel Marco-Havens (Woodstock)

"Can you speak to New Paltz regarding waste water? You spoke about Smart Growth. What does that mean environmentally?"

25:18 - 26:35  Fred Testa, EFC

We are looking at a project with new infrastructure or expand new service area. Has the municipality planned for growth in that area? Does it add properties that local growth hasn't thought about. We are looking to see if the local gov have considered impacts on the communities. Was it planned for? Is a comp plan available to avoid uncontrolled sprawl that have adverse effects.

27:06 - 27:26  QUESTION: Rebecca Martin (Kingston)

"Can you speak a little bit to inter-municipal partnerships and how funding increase, or the benefits?"

27:28 - 29:56   Fred Testa, EFC

"We want to see that there is capacity at a treatment plant for both, that the communities have already talked. We want to see an inter-municipal agreement. A legal contract drawn up by the parties. Tying in smart growth, the idea is if there is a treatment plant nearby it may be best for everyone to make use of it."

29:57 - 30:40:   MODERATOR

"There was a discussion in Kingston and Ulster in looking at that sort of collaboration in the past. I don't know where those discussions are today. Also Comprehensive Plans can engage in other communities under municipal law to generate inter-municipal agreements."

30:41 - 43:04: QUESTION: Ward 3 Alderman Brad Will (Kingston)

"I think this should be mandatory attendance for all muniapl leaders. Looking at the revolving fund loans for Kingston and noticing out of 14 there are 3 that originated from the Kingston water dept, all happening in 2012 under 1/2 million - 6.2 million.  In the dealings with the KWD are you in close contact or are there ongoing communications with KWD since 2012?

32:32:  Fred Testa, EFC

"I myself haven't worked with Kingston, but the water district is referenced here - but the COK was the borrower here, not the Water Department."

QUESTION: Ward 3 Alderman Brad Will

"We have a flooding task force that looked at conditions in the Rondout, historically it's been very industrial. Are there funding mechanisms to assist with businesses and private property owners to help mitigate flooding problems?"

34:49:  Fred Testa, EFC

"Not through EFC.  There may be funding through the Consolidated Funding Application."

35:43:  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"There may be funding through Community Development Block Grant for these things."

35:59 - 38:13   MODERATOR and Fred Testa, EFC

"Kingston is going through it's brownfield area opportunity, a GEIS of great magnitude that will allow business and property owners to move through the SEQR process more quickly. Through the DOS. The program, unfortunately, has sun setted but hopefully there will be more opportunities." (more on the CFA Program, Green Innovations grant, all happen in June).  "Kingston has been on the ball and have qualified for a great number of grants. As have the county. We have a green infrastructure project for Sophie Finn School."

38:19 - 40:22  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"I want to answer your question, Brad. The CDBG program, one is public infrastructure, planning, public facilities and economic development of small business and enterprise. I don't know if the economic development section would apply, but it's worth looking that up. For joint applications, there are strict requirements, but if you were a join applications you could apply for more funding."

40:22  MODERATOR

"Kingston is an entitlement city, not entitlement county. Kingston's CDBG goes through HUD (Housing and Urban Development)."

40:44:  QUESTION: Ward 3 Alderman Brad Will

"What is the percentage of applications that are approved through the EFC?"

40:54 - 41:00:  Fred Testa, EFC

"Last year we financed every application."

41:05  MODERATOR

"The window is closing for the hardship applications. If Kingston wanted to apply for the round that moves forward in 2016 and are not  listed this year how would that work?"

41:24: 43:04  Fred Testa, EFC

I think Kingston has projects listed in the drinking water plant, but not waste water. The City received funding last September for a study 30,000 to study the engineering planning grant WW treatment plant for improvements. They can then give us a listing form, get on the intended use plan and get a score to hopefully be high enough to apply for hardship financing.   Projects can apply for up to $25 million, $18 million at 0%  The city is not in a position to apply because they are not on the list. Step one. Get on the list."

43:08 - 48:20  QUESTION: Kathy Nolan, Catskill Mountainkeeper

"Troubled that we are talking about conventional waste water treatment plants. They don't include pharmaceuticals, heavy metals, hormones. However newer technologies methods do. Those plants require less maintenance impacting costs. Who do we get to help us to be directed towards innovative approaches, especially considering NYS watershed?"

44:42:   Candace Balmer, RCAP

"Most don't describe technology requirements, though must be technically approvable. In that way, it's all fundable."

45:18:  Fred Testa, EFC

"If there are new technologies being considered, the DEC which permits waste water treatment plants allows them to discharge treated wastewater as long as it meets cleanliness regulations. If they are presented with new technologies, they are going to want to see proven technical evidence."

Candace Balmer, RCAP

"If it breaks, they want to see that you can get the pieces easily for repair. That don't want you to put in something that is problematic in that way."

Kathy Nolan CM

"What you're describing is a system that doesn't have a way to perhaps get started in communities that use better technology. With the Green Innovation funding stream, can we can get a plant funded to be used as a pilot to see how it functions and if it's possible to create more of them.  We keep coming to the same point in the conversation. We need to do something that gets us into the better technology."

Candace Balmer, RCAP

"Get with your regulator. Have them come with you and chat about concerns. Sometimes it's an individual look at concerns."

48:27 - 50: 04  QUESTION: Joanne Steel, Mid-Hudson Sierra Club  

"Town of Lloyd had a rebed system that was doing very well. Are you familiar with it?"

49:06   Fred Testa, EFC

"That was a wetland. It's not a rebed for sludge."

49:17  Candace Balmer, EFC

"Though it's an example of their working with the DEC to get that project off the ground."

50:11 - 53:53:  QUESTION: Mary McNamara (Saugerties)

"In our region there are often neighborhoods where Septic Systems have failed. To accommodate, water districts have been created. It's to o expense to bring in a clean water program. The nearby surface waters are impacted. I see it more and more. What funding programs exist for individuals?"

51:25:  Candace Balmer, RCAP

"Looking at it from a community perspective, what EPA has promoted is decentralized water management concept with responsible management entity. Pay the bills. You can have a management district that manage onsite. Woodstock has a management area where they inspect and repair individual septic systems. There's a variety of ways. For individuals, there are not a lot of programs. If you are poor or elderly you can get up to 7500 in a lifetime and septic systems are one of them that you can use it for."

53:34: Fred Testa, EFC

"There is Housing Improvement in CDBG to improve septic systems for private drinking water wells."

53:54 - 58:05:   MODERATOR

"Kingston represents a community that has experienced it all.  Now we are dealing with the burdens in dealing with infrastructure. How do we look down the road to address this challenge?"

56:11 - 57:16:  Fred Testa, EFC

"You need people to sit down and focus. Asset management approach forces people to look at specific elements of infrastructure and plan accordingly. Infrastructure must be maintained. People come to rely on that service.  The general population doesn't stop to think "If I didn't have water, how would my life be affected? How valuable is that infrastructure to my quality of life that I have?  How much am I paying for it vs. how important is it to my life?"

57:19 - 58:05:   Candace Balmer, RCAP

"It takes the community. When we do project planning we get everyone at the table. The regulators, the public, the board. Lets all sit down at what we're looking at and what it costs."

 

 

City of Kingston Comprehensive Plan Public Hearing 3/19/15

Dan Shuster, Consultant
6:15 - 14:05

Daniel McKay
15:05 - 20:40

Jennifer Schwartz Berky
20:48 - 25:59

Jeff Braunlein
26:03 - 29:10

George Donskoj
29:29 - 31.:31

Hayes Clement
32:05 - 34:44

Kevin McEvoy
34:50 - 38:01

Kitty McCullough
38:06 - 43:01

Tom Polk
43:09 - 47:01

Emilie Hauser
47:32 - 52:56

Richdard Frumess
0:00 - 3:33

Gerald Berke
3:42 - 8:46

Jeff Anzevino
8:47 - 13:51

Weston Davy
14:18 - 15:29

Harold Grunenwald
15:40 - 18:38

Chris Allen
18:53 - 22:37

Jordan Scruggs
22:46 - 26:11

Leslie Miller
26:36 - 30:49
Jordan Scruggs
31:00 - 32:40

KingstonCitizens.org Celebrates World Water Day on March 22nd featuring Jack DeJohnette and Larry Grenadier.

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KingstonCitizens.org  is proud to host a special event at BSP (323 Wall Street in Uptown) Kingston, NY to mark World Water Day on Sunday, March 22nd, 2015 from 5:00pm - 8:00pm.  (Doors at 4:30pm).

This year, the theme for World Water Day is "Water and Sustainable Development." It's about how water links to all areas we need to consider to create the future we want. March 22nd is a day to celebrate water and to map a difference for the members of the global population who suffer from water related issues. It's a day to prepare for how we manage water in the future.

Guest speakers include water advocates and a special presentation of youth and prayers and tradition dance and song from local Native American communities.

The event will also showcase world renowned jazz musicians Jack DeJohnette and Larry Grenadier - both local to the Hudson Valley region.

Jack DeJohnette Photo credit: Chris Griffith 20jazzstory

In a career that spans five decades and includes collaborations with some of the most iconic figures in modern jazz, NEA and Grammy winner Jack DeJohnette has established an unchallenged reputation as one of the greatest drummers in the history of the genre. Th list of creative associations throughout his career is lengthy and diverse; John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Ornette Coleman, Sonny Rollins, Sonny Rollins, Thelonious Monk, Bill Evans, Stan Getz, Keith Jarrett, Chet Baker, Herbie Hancock, Dave Holland, Joe Henderson, Freddy Hubbard, Betty Carter and so many more. Along the way, he has developed a versatility that allows rom for hard bop, R&B, World Music, Avant-Garde and just about every other style to emerge in the past half-century.

As one of contemporary jazz's most respected and accomplished bassists, Larry Grenadier has built an expansive body of work that encompasses a variety of significant projects with many of the genre's most inventive and influential musicians. Over the course of a performing and recording career that spans three decades, he's earned a far-reaching reputation, for his instrumental talent, for his instantly recognizable tone, and for his sensitivity, imagination and creative curiosity that have established him as an in-demand sideman and valued collaborator. Grenadier's trademark upright bass work has been a longstanding fixture in the bands of pianist Brad Mehldau, guitarist Pat Metheny, and has graced albums and groups by a broad array of prestigious artists including Paul Motian, Charles Lloyd, Enrico Rava, Danilo Perez, Chris Potter, Joshua Redman and Kurt Rosenwinkel. He's also found time to make three albums with his  acclaimed trio Fly and to record five more with his wife, noted singer/songwriter and founder of KingstonCitizens.org Rebecca Martin.

The event is free to all, though a $10.00 recommended cover will be accepted at the door. Proceeds after expenses will be used to support a new KingstonCitizens.org mentorship program that provides opportunities for young and old to participate in regular city government meetings.

The film "TAPPED" will be screened at Kingston Candy Bar next door to BSP from 5-8pm. Visit and have your water bottle filled with filtered tap water! 

Become a Water Board Commissioner for Kingston’s Water Department.

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By Rebecca Martin

To be considered as a Commissioner of the Kingston Water Board:

  1. Please submit your resume/CV (Curriculum Vitae) to Carly Williams, City of Kingston Clerk: cwilliams@kingston-ny.gov by April 30th, 2015 (because we were not given a date by the Mayor’s office, this date is arbitrary. However, we presume that it gives the city time to collect interest and make a decision).
  2. The term is five years.
  3. You must be a city resident or business person.
  4. Please let us know that you have applied by contacting KingstonCitizens.org at Rebecca@kingstoncitizens.org

On May 31st 2015, Water Board Commissioner Al Radel's term will expire. Radel has served as a Commissioner on the Water Board now for 15 years, which is three terms. We appreciate his service.

That means, that a spot is opening up - and we are hoping that citizens who are interested in serving will step up.

The Mayor of Kingston appoints citizens (and business persons) to most Commissions/Boards/Councils in Kingston. Recently, we reached out to the Mayor's office to find out what the process was. You know how fast we move around here, and after the second request without getting information, we decided to lay out our questions in a PETITION to give the public a chance to weigh in. That petition is live now, so have a look, consider signing it and leave a comment.

The questions were simple.

KingstonCitizens.org requests that Mayor Shayne Gallo require Water Department Superintendent Judith Hansen to:

  1. Make both the description of the Board of Water Commissioner's role and length of term visible and public on the City of Kingston's Water Department web page.
  2. Make all of the current members of the Board of Water Commissioners biographies and length of service to date visible and public on the City of Kingston's Water Department web page.

Furthermore, that:

  1. The City of Kingston's Mayor, who appoints Board of Water Commissioners, publish a public notice in a timely fashion announcing its search for new candidates for the upcoming term. This announcement should include a description of the Board of Water Commissioner's expected role; preferred experience / qualifications for candidates; contact info and deadline for submissions; and the term length.

Yesterday, we heard from Water Department Superintendent Judith Hansen who responded:

“The Mayor asked that I contact you to let you know that appointments to the Board of Water Commissioners are made by the Mayor and that if you have anyone that would like to be considered for the position, they should submit their CV to him via the City Clerk’s Office.  Neither the Board nor any employee of the Water Department, including the Superintendent has any role in or input into the selection process.”

Not much in the way of answering our questions. Then later, we heard directly from Mayor Gallo’s office:

“This is in reply to your inquiry about how vacancies and/or appointments are made to the Board of Water Commissioners or any other City board or Commission. Be advised the following process has been used since the City Charter has been adopted: Any interested City resident and/or business person may apply for consideration to any City Board and/or Commission by providing a letter of interest with a resume and background information and/or curriculum vitae of said individual. The interested party should submit the above to the City Clerk’s Office.  Upon receipt, the letter of interest shall will forwarded to my office for review and consideration.   If you know of an interested City resident who would like to be considered for appointment to the Board of Water Commissioners and/or other City boards and commissions, please share the above information with them. Thank you for your interest.”

The points unanswered at least expose something critical.  We have some information on the process, but nothing that we didn't already know.

So why can't the City of Kingston provide a description of a Water Board Commissioner? Or nail down their term? Or share their biographies and experience so that we know who is at the helm of our water supply? Or put out a notice in the papers to residents with a deadline for their response?

As we are entering into an election cycle, we will take these things up again at an appropriate time.  We intend to advocate for Kingston to overhaul it's city charter at a future date.

Until then:

To be considered as a new Commissioner of the Kingston Water Board:

  1. Please submit your resume/CV (Curriculum Vitae) to Carly Williams, City of Kingston Clerk: cwilliams@kingston-ny.gov by April 3oth, 2015 (because we were not given a date by the Mayor’s office, this date is arbitrary. However, we presume that it gives the city time to collect interest and make a decision).
  2. The term is five years.
  3. You must be a city resident or business person.
  4. Please let us know that you have applied by contacting KingstonCitizens.org at Rebecca@kingstoncitizens.org

KingstonCitizens.org sponsors a public educational discussion titled “Water and Waste Water Infrastructure 101” on Tuesday, March 24th

 

St-Marys-Water-Recycling-PlantKingstonCitizens.org sponsors a public educational discussion titled "Water and Waste Water Infrastructure 101" on Tuesday, March 24th from 6:00pm - 8:00pm at the Kingston Public Library, 55 Franklin Street in Kingston, NY.  The group's guest will be Water Resource Specialist Candace Balmer of RCAP Solutions (Resources for Communities and People).

Kingston, NY:   KingstonCitizens.org is pleased to present an educational discussion titled "Water and Waste Water Infrastructure 101" on Tuesday, March 24th, 2015 at the Kingston Public Library, 55 Franklin Street in Kingston, NY. from 6:00pm - 8:00pm.  Moderated by KingstonCitizens.org's Jennifer Schwartz Berky, the group will have the opportunity to speak with Water Resource Specialist CANDACE BALMER to explore water and wastewater infrastructure,  how it is and can be funded, the importance of regular maintenance and the reality of periodic rate increases to keep this huge investment functioning. A question and answer period will also take place.

This event is free to the public and will be filmed by Kingston News. Sponsored by KingstonCitizens.org with the support of the Woodstock Land Conservancy, Riverkeeper and Catskill Mountainkeeper.

For more information, contact Rebecca Martin at rebecca@kingstoncitizens.org

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Our Guest:

About Candace Balmer, Water Resource Specialist RCAP 

Ms. Balmer joined RCAP Solutions in March 1997 after previous experience as Associate Director, Pollution Abatement Technology Program at Westchester Community College and as Project Engineer with Environmental Resources Management, Inc. (ERM).  Advisory Boards and Task Forces: NY Onsite Wastewater Training Network (OTN); Lower Esopus Watershed Partnership (LEWP); NYC DEP-coordinated Ashokan Reservoir Working Group (ARWG).  Education: A.A.S. Water Quality Monitoring; B.A. Anthropology; M.S. Environmental Engineering.

RCAP Solutions, Inc. is the Northeast regional partner of the Rural Community Assistance Partnership (RCAP).  RCAP is federally funded to assist small rural communities with water and wastewater projects.

Sponsored by:

About KingstonCitizens.org
KingstonCitizens.org is a community-based organization committed to improving the quality of life of Kingston residents through accountability and transparency between the people and their local government. By providing citizens with current and important information through better communication, our work is meant to nurture citizen participation and empowerment through projects, education and fun.

With Support from:

About Woodstock Land Conservancy
The Woodstock Land Conservancy is a non-profit organization committed to the protection and preservation of the open lands, forests, wetlands, scenic areas and historic sites in Woodstock and the surrounding area.

About Riverkeeper
To protect the environmental, recreational and commercial integrity of the Hudson River and its tributaries, and safeguard the drinking water of nine million New York City and Hudson Valley residents.

About Catskill Mountainkeeper
To be the strongest and most effective possible advocate for the Catskill region; working through a network of concerned citizens we promote sustainable growth and protect the natural resources essential to healthy communities.